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51. You have no idea how expensive it is to look this cheap...

Interview with journalist Kent Babb

Podcast Links: Apple/Spotify

I wrote this book four times… This is my shot.

Kent Babb has written what I think is the best book of the year, Across the River: Life, Death, and Football in an American City. It sounds like vegetables, and the book examines the weightiest issues in America, but reading it is all dessert as Kent is a master storyteller.

In this conversation, Kent and I discuss:

-“You have to find your Alfred.”

-“If you’re going to tell this story, you have to tell it straight up.”

-“I owed them an honest accounting.”

-“You look like the people who locked me up.”

-First draft is a shit draft. Second draft is the biggest leap. Third draft is micro-surgery.

-Word choice, or what Kent calls, “Writing Nerd Prom.”

-The difference between accuracy and precision. Accuracy is hitting the target. Precision is hitting the bullseye.

-Finding ways to read your manuscript fresh.

-Writing process and honesty.

-“There are so many Joe Thomas’ and so few Bryce Browns.”

-Coaching, trust, communication and investment in helping young people.

-Trent Dilfer and the “obedience model” of coaching.

-Book promotion is necessary but difficult.

-”It’s a social justice book that has some football shit in it.”

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